kevin rose? *faints*

can't wait for mda

Awesome, cant wait!

Like it? Digg it!

http://digg.com/apple/MyDreamApp_Details_Uncovered

I'm moist.

So that's what Mr. Watanabe looks like...

Quite an impressive list of developers, designers and web celebs. I can't wait!

holy jesus......i don't even know what to think of this but I freaking can't wait!

Looks good.
An idea:

Users(who cannot develop apps) submit great ideas. Those ideas are judged, and then people buy the idea/rights to make it from you. Or.. you get prizes for submitting ideas.

You know there's a word for what's happening here - outsourcing.

These developers and other folks just want to get as many ideas as they can for as little cost. Heck, if they produce an app from an idea someone submitted and sell it for $10, they'd only have to sell 1000 copies to cover the cost of the user's MacBook "Prize".

I suspect there might be a rather ominous checkbox when you submit ideas which gives all rights from your idea to them. In the real world, inventive folks who come up with ideas for software, games, movies etc are often paid a cut depending on how successful their idea is.

I don't think there's a single person listed up there who doesn't have a vested interest in using these ideas to their own advantage. I pity those who submit ideas but don't really understand that all they are doing is working for these guys and I also suspect that very few of the ideas will win a prize, yet a larger proportion are used by those who receive them.

\"I don’t think there’s a single person listed up there who doesn’t have a vested interest in using these ideas to their own advantage. I pity those who submit ideas but don’t really understand that all they are doing is working for these guys and I also suspect that very few of the ideas will win a prize, yet a larger proportion are used by those who receive them.\"

You know what\'s happening here Neil, you\'ve become my very first online stalker! You follow me around on my site and Digg flaming me at every opportunity. Sure, you\'ve become craftier, and now post things actually beyond \"I HATE PHILL RYU\", but it\'s still the same Neil Christie behind them huh?

It may interest you to know that you are totally wrong. But a good attempt at flaming something that hasn\'t been revealed yet. Solid.

Interesting that you're so quick to dismiss my idea, Phill. I read the Apple category on Digg frequently and as this was promoted out of Upcoming, I took an interest in what it was and I can only comment on what you've decided to tell people about this.

Good software it may end up being but just whether those who deserve to be rewarded for their efforts in coming up with ideas remains to be seen.

If posting a negative comment about what SEEMS to be a controversial idea is "stalking" then I must be stalking quite a number of people. Those who post positive comments aren't stalkers though, are they?

I don't hate you but I do think that you must realise that not everyone will think you're god.

Yes Neil, you\'re right. You\'re not a stalker, more like a twisted fan in a way I guess.

“I don’t hate you but I do think that you must realise that not everyone will think you’re god.�

You make too many assumptions here. First, I do “realise� that. In fact, I\'ve never “realised� anything else. (Oh, and PLEASE cut the condescending tone.) Second, you do hate me. Remember? You said it yourself on the Digg someone submitted about the Bryan Lund rant. It sticks in my mind, because it was entirely hypocritical. First you bashed me on my blog about “personally attacking� Bryan Lund in a public space, then you promptly went to Digg and bashed me.

If you want to continue this, email me, at this point I just want to figure you out.

Is this stylesheet for real? I feel like I'm going blind trying to read stuff on your site. I'm enjoy reading your posts, but if there is any way to make links and other information easier to read it would be really appreciated!

Kris, what browser are you using? If it's IE 6, I have yet to fix that up. It's up there on my list, but I've been procrastinating since most of my readers are Mac users. For now, try viewing it in Firefox if you have that installed.

"I hate Phill Ryu. He's a hack himself. I mean what's the deal with getting people to submit fake screenshots of Leopard to you so that you can drive up your own visitor numbers and ad revenues?"

- Neil Christie

http://www.digg.com/apple/PhillRyu_com_Good_Riddance_Bryan_Lund

I think the dream app has something to do with blogging. Or podcasting....
Hmmm....
Something do do with distributing information.
But it's going to act kinda like dashboard.

Despite what Neil says, I think PhillRyu,com is the most interesting, best laid out, cool Mac blog ever.

I don't if this is what Kris is referring to but I see tons of question marks surrounded by black diamonds on the page in Safari and Shiira. Probably some missing characters? No idea.

My Dream App ? I guess my dream app would be an app combining all the functions I need in one app. Like a browser/chat/mail/calendar/rss read, or a browser/podcaster/picture viewer, or ... whatever fits your needs... Hence I'd say your app will allow building easily personal customized apps by picking/combining parts/functions from already existing apps. What about that ?

I'm gonna take a wild guess at what might happen with this:

My Dream App - a bunch of developers each have one idea that they know will be totally amazing knocking about in their heads. But on their own they just don't have the man power / abillty to pull all the bits together. So they get together to help each other make the "killer app" ideas they each have. But they only have the resources to make _one_. But which one.

Being a bunch of clever clogs they decide to put a whole lot of spin on things and turn it into a kewl competition.

Each week each program proposal is grilled by some industry judges to keep the projects on the straight and narrow and within the realms of possibilty and then, us, their faithful blog readers get to vote on them with the ideas getting the least votes being rejected.

At the end of it all the winning app gets developed.

I dunno where prizes would come into this though. Maybe the end user will get to propose the apps instead and each developer will have to adopt on. Winning idea gets a Mac Book. - Yeah on the surface from what little info is available this concept of what MDA might be does stink of ideas harversting but Phil being a student probably has, like i do, the idea that "SPEC WORK IS THE DEVIL" drilled into him by his lecturers so I wouldn't think he would wish to be on either end of spec work demon.

I worded the last paragraph of my previous post very badly so if I may I'd like to rephrase:

To bring prizes into the mix it might be that instead of the developers proposing their killer idea each one has to adopt an idea submitted by the public (the end users). For the idea that wins the person that proposed it wins a mac book.

Yeah on the surface, from what little info is available, having user submitted ideas stinks of ideas harversting but Phil being a student probably has the idea that "SPEC WORK IS THE DEVIL" drilled into him by his lecturers (i know I do) so I wouldn't think he would wish to be on either end of spec work demon.

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Personally I cant wait to see what this is going to turn out to be and the prospect of winning a mac book by participating in helping make a dream app is certainly appealing.

Jon, you're gonna have to wait, but we have thought a lot about the 'idea ownership' thing, and I think we've struck a happy medium. Every idea submitted besides the winners will be released to the submittors before (for the majority) or at the end of the event (for the luckier ones).

Perhaps it is sort of like an application assembly line? People are asked to submit app ideas, and the judges select the best. Next, people are asked to submit user interfaces for that app. Again, the best is selected, and so on. Readers submit each aspect of the app and the judges select the best. At each step, the person who submits the winner gets a prize. By the time you are done you have a complete app, collectively made by a number of talented people. Something like that, maybe?

You're site doesn't work in IE6 at all.

"IE User
August 13th, 2006 at 7:01pm

You're site doesn't work in IE6 at all."

LOL That's great!

Shite.

Hmmm.. It sounds nice. But either way this goes, are we just going to have more stupid note taking todo list apps ? We have like 20 of them now.

I was hopeful this was going to be a new app that I don't know somehow helps a small developers program in some sort of better way.. But alas it seems to just be a voteing ground... Kinda like the "top dugg stories of the week"
Well I am glad some kids will have some ideas created, but it leads to more resentment now when a person tries to submit an idea for 5 weeks in a row..

tripdragon, I guarantee that won't happen. Trust me.

Dude, my dream app sounds very promising... btw can you make full-text RSS feeds available again? I kinda miss them

I hope this isn't just for programers, you have GUI designers so would a person that not a developer get in on this. I'm a graphic designer that's really interesting and excited about this.

Rolo, you will definitely be able to participate. Key word: low barriers. No PS skills, programming knowledge, or even a Mac required.

Alright lets test the water.. JUST thought of this one..

World domination app,, a note pad.

It is a program to create deep richly formated final documents to be printed out as works of art in your plans to explain the details of the project..

But first you must write and rewrite the plans. And this involves tiresome redrafts... and keeping tabs of your best notes. Usely you draw marks and colors to keep highlights, or bookmarks, or dog ears on the pages..

But we are in the computer.. the center of power,, making a computer ack like a book is foolish..

Instead.. Make dynamic tags. Example:
I have a space for scratch notes and scrawlings and ideas.. I write so many and start to tag the best stuff. These tagged items are then dynamicly added to the Final page view the classly looking one. In that classy looking view I can continue to edit the notes and have them update the scrawlings to fine tune my document plans. It can have pre built layout or a custom layout control just like Pages app..
But it has to look nice, like a FBI dossier or some such... A nice global logo,, some core image dirt mapping... so on..

So the jist is, Two work view area editing. A classy design and a note bashing area..
And an air of sofistication to those plans of yours...

What cha think ?

thats not Dave Watanabe, its one of his stunt doubles, he got 5 in total, just like Saddam. The real Watanabe hasn't been seen in public for 3 years, according to intelligence hes currently in a safe house working a new form of individuation in the mountains of Guatemala

Viva la revolution, Viva la Watanabe

My Dream App would be a Mac Replacement that goes ABOVE & BEYOND Quicken Personal Finance.

Quicken for the Mac has lagged behind its Windows counterpart for years now. It's interface is counter-"intuitive" and does not conform to most OS X conventions. This is where I hope Core Animation can step in and spice things up with my Dream Finance App.

Yes, I know there are other alternatives, like: MoneyDance, LiquidLedger, and iBank for personal finance needs on the Mac. Somehow these alternative apps have not caught on with the vast majority of Mac users. Why is that? Could ease of use be the problem? Or, is it a comparable list of features and uses to Quicken itself? In the end, I find that I am STILL using Quicken 2005 simply because I have become used to its idiosyncracies. "The devil you know is better than the demon you don't know."

I feel that this is a golden opportunity for a group of talented software designers to finally take the next step. A financial app is a BIG LEAP and can be quite a complex challenge. However, I know a group like this could pull it off.

I don't want to be a victim of Intuit's software any longer. I also don't want to wait for a financial app to come from Apple some time in the distant future, if ever. My Dream App would be to manage my personal finances with an app that is as easy to use as iTunes or RapidWeaver.

Do I dare dream the impossible dream???????????

The problem with these teasers is that they can have a detrimental efeect on those interested... that is, people will have their own ideas about what all this is going to be and could potentially be quite dissapointed when it turns out to be something completely different!

That aside, I'm quite fascinated with all this I'm always dreaming up my own 'dream apps'... well... more refinements on current apps than anything. Hope it all goes well!

My dream app?.. A web browser re-thought. See, I don't like any of the web browsers currently available - I believe they are dated in their design, having not really changed since the mid-90's. Essentially, I believe the web-browser nees to be re-imagined for the way people are currently using them, and more importantly, the way they are gonig to be using them in the future.
It should focus on streamlining navigation, trends such as social-bookmarking, blogging, etc. Bah... Time to open up photoshop again and create yet another mock-up of my dreams :/

Good luck!

Pipster Jeans,
What about flock?
www.flock.com
They are at least heading in that direction...

Yeah, I use flock... good to see they're starting to advance,but I still don't think its enough

I second Mark Preuss's request for a financial app alternative to Quicken. Please! Somebody!

sush! Enjoy the ride.